October 24, 2010
Haiti is a land with absolutely no history of cholera.
Haiti’s Minister of Health, Doctor Larsen snapped….”I don’t know where it came from!!!” when a journalist asked a rather stupid question, a question that seemed to blame Haitians for this current outrage.
How is it that we are now assailed with a cholera epidemic?
As with any study, one must look at the cause and effect. An the hastily mounted investigation revealed a truth that the United Nations is now trying to suppress. By suppressing the truth, a proper handling of the emergency is less likely.
In this case, the cause is the Nepalese United Nations, MUNUSTAH contingent in Mirebalais.
Some, if not all, of this contingent are Cholera Carriers…….people who carry the cholera threat within their systems, without suffering any apparent problems.
This CONTINGENT defecates, like any other contingent, with the exception that their shit carries the cholera strain. Locals say the Nepalese are not the most sanitary people in town. This human debris has been eaten by animals, or dumped into the water table in such a way that it has infected a tributary to the great Artibonite River system, a system upon which countless Haitians depend upon for life-giving water supplies.
Now that we have the cause, what is the effect???
The effect is two fold, at least.
First of all we have an immediate threat of cholera, and all that comes with this disease. People will die. There is wide spread panic. Foreigners are avoiding Haiti – like the plague – as the saying goes, and we do have a plague, one brought by the foreign troops.
With the introduction of Cholera, we will now have your own base of Carriers, to stand as potential threat in the immediate and long-term future. We have a new threat that did not exist before.
In the short, medium and long-term Haiti will suffer from a reputation that derails all types of investment….and tourism. Who wants to vacation in a place that has a history of cholera.
Haiti was once – WRONGLY – blamed for the AIDS/SIDA problems in America.
This stupidity effectively ruined many things for a small – charming nation.
When the truth was finally discovered, it was already too late.
The damage had been done.
Let’s reveal the truth on the Cholera outbreak now!
Our MINUSTAH guests are responsible and focus on a cover-up, rather than a full-bodied treatment of something that could get much worse over the coming days.
The United Nations should look into the health backgrounds, of all contingents, before sending them to infect uninfected territories…or is their approach one to spread disease and thus justify bigger and better treatment projects – with the attendant costs added to the already horrendous UN budget.???
We need support…You can translate this text in english and publish it…
Dr Gelin
De: gedeon gelin
Objet: Hypothese/Cas index -cholera
À: centurionlucas@gmail.com, “Henry Ariel” , “Gabriel Thimothe” , “Alex Larsen” , csurena@gmail.com, csurena@yahoo.com, aladanel@yahoo.com
Cc: joagabus@yahoo.fr, bouledev@yahoo.com, gedeonght@yahoo.fr, “madsen beauderochars”
Date: Dimanche 24 octobre 2010, 12h33
Chers amis,
Dans le cadre de mes travaux de recherche je participe aux réunions de la salle de situation (rencontres du MSPP et de ses partenaires pour renforcer la surveillance des maladies à potentiel épidémique) depuis plusieurs mois. Vous me connaissez bien pour comprendre que mon souci a toujours été de mettre le peu de science que j`ai pu acquérir ici et ailleurs au service de mon pays. Le Dr Donald Lafontant et moi-même ont toujours exprimé publiquement notre désaccord sur l`existence de sous-système de surveillance géré par de nombreuses institutions étrangères (ONG ou autre…). Le drame que nous vivons vient fondamentalement du fait de la faiblesse de notre système de surveillance[ que même l`OMS affaiblit—Je reviendrai la dessus au besoin-L`OMS collecte directement les informations dans le cadre du projet soins gratuits aux femmes enceintes…ON AFFAIBLIT VOLONTAIRMENT LE MSPP-Je m`expliquerai au besoin—souvent avec la complicité tacite de nos directeurs de service].
Le ministre Larsen a vu « juste ». J`ai revu toute la dynamique de la maladie pour essayer de trouver des hypothèses qui pourraient nous permettre d`en trouver l`origine. Il n`existe malheureusement qu`une seule hypothèse plausible : le premier cas est « certainement » un étranger vivant à Mirebalais. Etant donné que les étrangers ont accès facilement à des soins de qualité, le malade a été vite réhydraté par son médecin qui, vu la récupération rapide du patient sur le plan clinique, n`a pas fait d`examen des selles.
Vous imaginez la suite : Un ami haïtien, une servante….. a probablement transporté le « vibrio cholerae » dans la communauté…..Les facteurs de risque étant déjà présent, on a eu une explosion….
Chers amis,
Cette hypothèse n`a rien de raciste. Le MSPP doit s`armer de courage pour confirmer cette hypothèse et fixer les responsabilités. Le ministre Larsen a spontanément pensé à cette hypothèse.
Le devoir commande : Battons-nous contre le choléra !
Gédéon
PS: Tous ceux qui sont en cc sont ” des haitiens responsables”….
GELIN Gedeon MD
Msc in Tropical diseases control
Medical Epidemiologist
Independant consultant
rete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bondye lan kisa Ayiti pran la?
Men Verite a .L`onu pa p regle ayiti,se plis pwoblèm yo pote.All the haitian have to become one to put Minustah out of the country……..
I sincerely hope that this new catastrophy in Haiti will not derail the election that I consider vital in this conjuncture to establish a responsible governement in this country. This new governemnt will not have an enviable task with this added major health problem!
genle nou bay ampil manti mesye.fok nou gen prev wi avan nou fe akizasyou sa yo.paske si sa nap di la se vre, nou anfas you loni kap kontribye ak infecte le monde antye paske se pa sel an Haiti gen solda loni et pi tou pou travay pou loni,premye bagay yo mande se certificat de sante.koman sa ta fe posib?
@Jean saw di a pa finn vre non paske moun nan pase bilan sante l leu li tap enskri petet avan yon misyon men sak pou diw antretan konbyen vwayaj ke li fe kijan ke li ye sou plan sante pesonel li?
Mezanmi, pa pedi tan nou tande. Kolera, se yon mak fabrik ki soti nan laboratwa ki planifye Jenosid sou plizye peyi ann Afrik deja. Jenosid Rwanda an 1994 la te dire 100 jou selman epi li te touye 800,000 kretyen vivan.Devan tribinal entenasyonal, gouvenman Rwada a te soumet yon dosye kont kriminel kont limanite yo. Pami yo, te genyen twa gwo chabrak nan gouvenman Rwade a ki jwen kondanasyon yo avi. Genyen 33 konplis gouvenman Lafrans sou prezidan Francois Mitterand, plis prezidan Mitterand li menm ki enplike jouk nan kou nan krim kont limanite Jenosid sou pep Rwanda a.
Kom prev, Michaelle jean, ansyen gouvene peyi Kanada, dorijin Ayisyen, nan non wayom Anglete. t al prezante ekskiz bay pep Rwade a, pou jenosid sa aki te pratike sou pep sa a, san yo pa t fe leneses pou sove pep sa a kont jenosid la ke anpil moun te konnen. Prezidan Bill Clinton tou, t al prezante ekskiz tou pou Jenosid la.
Jpdi a, batay la dwe sere epi serye. Petet nou pouko reyalize anple katastwof sa a. pita pral pi tris. Anpil moun nan otorite peyi dAyiti pral pran bon jan kod ki pa rete ak kod, paske, anpil nan yo konplis.Wi, yo fout konplis, depi nan katastwof 12 Janvye 2010 la, kolera k ap ravaje popilasyon an kounye ya, Inondasyon nan vale Latibonit 2004 la, inondasyon vale Latibonit 2008 la,akoz gwo siten yo t ap vide nan peyi vwazen an yo epi gouvenman Ayisyen yo regle domaj yo anba tab, yo fe gwo mago, epi you kase fey kouvri sa.
Se pa premye fwa non, zak kriminel sa yo ap pratike sou pep Ayisyen, san gouvenman yo pa defann li. Yo koupe tet Ayisyen an Dominikani, preval al chite bwe bye avek Fernandez, epi li di li pa p foure bouch li nan konfli ant Dominiken avek Ayisyen, epi nad marinad. Anyen pa fet pou fe respekte dwa Ayisyen yo.
Preval konplis avek tout manm gouvenman li yo. Bellerive konplis, ak tout akolit li yo.Genyen anpil lot endis ki kapab atire atansyon moun k ap veye sou evolisyon Jenosid ki te prepare pou detwi pep Ayisyen an.
Si nou konsidere konpotman politisyen ki te anvayi peyi a, apre 7 Fevriye 1986, nou va reyalize ke se destriksyon selman yo te pote nan dyakout yo. Neg yo asosye yo avek ansyen patwon ki te ba yo refij nan peyi yo sou rejim Duvalier yo, epi, yo ekipe, yo voye yo tounen nan peyi a, pou vin fe destriksyon total kapital, pou prepare retou ansyen kolon kriminel yo, pou yo vin vanje san zanset yo nan peyi dAyiti.
Se pa yon ti zafe k ap pase la a non mezanmi.
Mwen te toujou di ke pa p genyen eleksyon.Mouvman peyizan Papay se yon fren sek pou kontrekare Jenosid la, moun Latibonit se yon pati irediktib nan po[pilasyon an k ap bare Jenosid la, se nomal ke yo komanse jenosid la sou yo pou yo redui nasyon an azewo.
Men, fout, chat konnen, rat konnen, n ap pare tann yo nan kafou tenten.Preval ak akolit li yo met pare tann sekous pep la tande. Nou deja tande ke yon lot tranblemandte 9.0 pral pase sou peyi a avan lontan. Kidonk, moun yo pa p kite Ayisyen anko nan peyi a, paske, Ayisyen pa sanble avek riches yo genyen anba te nan peyi a. Se yo ki konnen vale riches sa yo.
Antouka, mesi anpil, politisyen lagaoch san manman apre 86 yo.Mesi,Lespwa, Inite ak tout boujwazi repiyan ki asosye avek malandren pou ekstemine pep Ayisyen an.
Nan sa nou ye la pou moun ap pale de eleksion ,mezanmi si nou pa kite moun an Ayiti ki moun ki bral vote pou nou? MAGOUYE YO KON SA KAP PASE LA. Sa se youn nan plan Clinton gin pou Ayiti pou redui pep la nan esklavaj, yap fin depatya peyi ya. ANMWE KONTE BON DIE TOUT NAP RELE YA? Nou kite yo pran tout LWA D’AFRIK avec tout konesans nou pou yo mete nan tout Univesite Sekret pandan yap fe nou mechanste. sa se ou det nou gin le pap jam fin paye. de prezidan an prezidan ki sa yo bral fe pendan se pouvwa yo bezoin pou yal danse banda sou tet pep la.nou konnin pi gwo gin fos sou pi piti men tonne ki le nap gin ou souf avek moun sa yo.PAPA BOUKMAN, PAPA DESSALIN,E TOUT LOT YO KOTE NOU YE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should stand up and march for our rights the same way we did for “the Aids virus ” . and we should request a test from every U.N employees. I believe it is time to say no “””enough is enough”””
It’s time to put those people out of Haiti. They came to eat our food, and kill us with there bad stuff. So I think it’s time to said enough is enough. Those white people are evil. They never want good for poor country. They are liars etc..
They are full of contamination, full of desease, and bacteria in their system.
al mete bouda ou you kote. kom kwa se pa piltisye ou ye tou. ban vole mwen pa vle tande pale ni de ou no de tout lot yo.ak jenocid, e pi pa ka gen eleksyou.monche demaske ou di sa ou vle di ya ou fini.
FRANCE-ESPAGNE-USA-CANADA-L’ONU/MINUSTAH-PREVAL AK CLASSE BOURGEOISE HAITIENNE NAN SOTI POU FINI AK PEP HAITIEN AN.
When discussing such important subjects, I wish people would write either in French or English. Not everyone can read Creole. Jeriko wrote a very informative comment but unfortunately, I could not really understand it. Thank you.
It’s just some soldiers who got careless. things like that happens. i don’t think it’s some sort of plot against us. imagine them secretely hidind their feces behind their back, waiting for the right moment to throw it a us. Come on!! get real!Now we have to take measure so we can stop it before it spread to much. it’s not the time to stay on our ass trying to guest whose fault it is. better start digging in that shit if you’ll excuse the expression, trying to save the maximum people we can.
Amen!
The haitian strain is 01 and the nepali strain is 0139. Haiti has had a massive cholera outbreak in 1960. I think the health minister should have his facts right before commenting, but hey he is the health minister of Haiti, what would one expect:)
Actually SAL, you are not correct. The medical officials and the UN here in Haiti (where we are right now, and always) said that they are both the same strain- Type 01
Thanks for the input, but you are mistaken in this case. Just because one finds info on GOOGLE does not mean that it is accurate…
Je n’arrive pas a comprendre, gen lè Haïti gen yon fortune ladan ke pep ayisyen pa konnen. Je me demande si nos gouvernements n’ont pas de cœur.Yo tout se menn! yap chache fè kob selman.
Preval pase li pa fè anyen, kounye a li pran yon poupe twal pou l vinn maske figi moune pou yo pa mete l anba kob! yap mare l kan mennm.
sa Aristide te fèl sou premye manda li ya, se sa li vle fè moune
mwen ta renmen konnen sa li pra l fè ak maladi sa ke yo pote ban nou a!!!
INITE vle ou preval vle pou moune ale vote pou bofis li! gade valè lajan ki gaspiye nan propagan, afich pou kandida kote kob sa yo soti. kob pep la preval genbe anba men li.
de pou yo mare li, ak tout akolit li yo…..
Je pense qu’il est necessaire de diffuser la source de la maladie”cholera”comme on a diffuse son existence dans le pays.Il est aussi necessairede faire des tests pour les membres des contingents militaires et autres qui arrivent dans le pays.Cela doit se faire par des medecins haitiens independants a qui on peut faire confiance.
a la méchant nou mele
On ne peut pas mettre sur la faute des Népalais, mettre l’ épidémie de choléra sur des faits non vérifiés est de la paranoia, de la propagande contre la MINUSTAH. Je suis haitien , c’ est vrai que cette force internationale doit partir du pays parce qu’ ils n’ ont pas su juguler l’ insécurité et aprés ces années ils apparaissent comme une force d’ occupation. Le sénateur de L’ Artibonite a envoyé une roche dans L’ eau et il espère que cela ferait des vagues. Soyons clairs , haitiens conséquents demandons plutôt à nos instances gouvernementales de palier à l’ épidémie de choléra en dotant Haiti d’ un systéme de santé public efficace, centre de santé , dispensaire dans les communes qui font de la prévention en matière d’ hygiène, accès à l’ eau potable, developpement des infrastructures dans le pays. Ne jouons pas à L’ autruche, certains commentaires sur ce site relèvent de l’ irresponsabilité.Changeons notre façon de penser.
mezanmi sa se trop ato preziden,magistra,senate, depite, haitien tout se you bann machann peyi sak pi di a magistra pap regle anyen pou pep la si gen male pou you sitwayen deside ede pepe la li blokel nan lide pou pa kite yo we febles li ou byen sil sispek ou gen entansyon kandida. nap pran egzamp magistra kwa des bouke a inondasyon ap touye pep la epi yo bal lajan pou bassen vesan li mangel, yo bal lajan pou rivye griz li mangel se trop ato nou bouke nou fout bouke
Here again,
It is someone else, whtever happens in Haiti comes from outside, now, instead of trying to find a culprit, why don’t admit, it is possibility and then try to correct the situation…
I guess, it is part of our heritage to believe that we are the best( cause we are the first Black country) and the all world is still against us: From political instability, earthquake through
cholera.
With such an attitude, no wonder why the country is going deeper and deeper into that mess.
Il convient au Ministere de s’ armer de courage et de denoncer publiquement ce que tout le monde sait deja,a commencer par les Neplais eux-memes :que les soldats du NEPAL ont apporte en Haiti le cholera et la mort.
Il convient d’ en tirer toutes les consequences,et d’ expulser ces contingents et surtout de refuser toute troupe etrangere issue de pays comme le Nepal,l’ Inde,le Pakistan ou sevissent de telles epidemies
This is an unususal event that outbreaks in Haiti. The Umited Nations must give a clear answer of the investigation of the fact finding concerning this epidemic. This situation can clasify as unethical, immoral, and inhumane to the extent of its truth or false. This should not even repeated in this civilized world for Minustha and its soldiers to be accused in such insane manner.